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T J S George's article & rebuttals

In response to a vicious article, “God, Karunanidhi —and pre-Brahmin glory”, written by T. J. S. George (journalist & editorial advisor of the New Indian Express) in the New Sunday Express (February 23 2008) wherein he waxes eloquent about the rabidly anti-Hindu EVR and his ‘Decaying’ movement, four Readers, who effectively take on the P-sec columnists and Editors then and there, send their forceful rebuttals aptly highlighting the said journalist as “the Christian fundamentalist gutter inspector whose predilection towards Hindu baiting is well known over the years, and there are too many instances in my archives to bear repetition here….. You try to divide the society, wearing a respectable cloak as Editor, New Indian Express. I am wondering, how Goenka's paper is allowing you to write the divisive trash, week after week…. I have no hesitations in stating that TJS George is a mentally deranged Hindu baiter. He is in urgent need of visiting a shrink. I recommend permanent interning of this Quisling at the NIMHANS, Bengaluru. The gloves are off from today. Thank you TNIE for ruining my morning cuppa”.

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Also Read:

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The English-language media in India is in the hands of a cabal of vested interests

I think the English-language media in India is in the hands of a cabal of vested interests; in many cases these interests appear to be Christian-funded. In other cases they appear to be heavily influenced by Marxists, possibly the Chinese. None of these vested interests worry overly about India's national interests, not surprisingly.

--Rajeev Srinivasan
http://vivekajyoti.blogspot.com/2008/02/english-language-media-in-india-is-in.html

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Media is a tool of anti-Hindu conspiracy

Which Media is controlled by whom and how does it derive benefit:
http://vivekajyoti.blogspot.com/2006/12/anti-hindu-media-of-india-contolled-by.html

The De-Hinduization of a Continent
http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/vedic-culture/202976-de-hinduization-continent.html

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Excerpts:

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The Christian fundamentalist gutter inspector's predilection towards Hindu baiting:

Our gutter inspector's (TJS George’s) predilection towards Hindu baiting is well known over the years, and there are too many instances in my archives to bear repetition here. After all, it is this despicable homo sapien, who after the Malegaon blasts had hinted at 'unbearded variety of terrorists'!! "For Indians who are aware of the anti-Hindu agendas of Christian, Islamic and Communist organizations in India and abroad, it is neither shocking nor surprising that numerous NGOs have sprung up throughout the country, which act as sole agents for these aliens and hostile organizations…Start your career by unleashing a tirade against Hindus and Hindu civilization. In order to become successful as a mercenary, start an NGO and visit the USA and tell the Christian fundamentalists there what they want to hear: how evil and backward the unconverted, pagan Hindus are. The password is 'Anti-Hindu'.” Fits our gutter inspector to the proverbial 'T'!! Also, I wonder where our Quisling went 'begging' for the 'Greenbacks'?

The 'Christian fundamentalist gutter inspector' waxes eloquent about EVR and his movement. These were the worthies who wanted the 'Raj' to continue and contributed 'ZILCH' to our Freedom Struggle. Only a guttersnipe will find virtue in such worthies!!

Our gutter inspector wants the readers to believe 'One sought to elevate common people to higher social-spiritual levels through education; the other prescribed that the lower orders should not be exposed to learning'. EUREKA!! As if this was not enough, our gutter inspector, next throws his glance towards the 'Aryan Invasion Theory'. His ignorance is appalling, to say the least. The 'Eminent Historians' have already backtracked from the 'Invasion' to 'Migration'. We await the day for their grandiose discovery of the 'Tourism Theory'!! The BBC has debunked the Aryan Invasion Theory, a few years ago. And, our 'gutter inspector' wants to perpetuate a Theory that has been dead, buried and gone. So much for intellectualism in Indian journalism!! Any wonder then, journalism in India has all but lost its credibility.

I have no hesitations in stating that TJS George is a mentally deranged Hindu baiter. He is in urgent need of visiting a shrink. I recommend permanent interning of this Quisling at the NIMHANS, Bengaluru. The gloves are off from today.

Thank you TNSE for ruining my morning cuppa.

-- H. Balakrishnan

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George's writings are "animated sewage:

Modi bashing is not remunerative anymore. Cannot expect any rupiahs from muhammedan sources either since it has become evident even to the kudiyaanavan from Thirunelveli that the Indian Muslim from educated and un-deprived backgrounds is as involved, perhaps more involved in Islamic terror than the ISI, Alqaeda, or Taliban. Neither Sonia nor Secularism can prevent George from landing in jail under the Prevention of Unlawful Acrivities Act -- or getting clobbered in an encounter -- if he roots for Afzals, Madhanis and other great Indian Muslim (or Muslim Indian) Terrorists.

He will not say a word against lawless lawyers, marauding murdering Kazhaga Kanmanis who set fire to newspaper offices and roast staff, or padiris and nuns who rape and kill schoolgirls, and help bury bodies in their missionary hospitals – he does not have the guts for that; not after having been the beneficiary of their largesse all these years, and "future prospects".

He cannot direct people's ire against Communists or their Maomarxian Terror Wing either for the same reasons.

However Good Shepherd George has to fill up his weekly Hate-India, hate-Hindu, India Balkanising column. So nothing left but to try to play the ancient British Christian Game of dividing the Hindu ranks with distortions of History, half-truths and downright lies.

George's writings are "animated sewage"; a very apt phrase, though not one we thought up. Our language tends to get four-letteredly flowery when we deal with anti-national elements.

-- K. Vijayan

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Best Wishes to George the Evangelist!

The unholy "Dravidian- Marxist-Mullah-Missionary" nexus is trying its level best to demolish the glorious "Tamil-Hindu" culture for the last five decades, but only in vain. If George is frustrated by the pro-God antics of Mr.Karunanidhi, he must write to Karunanidhi or investigate & unearth the actual facts of 'Arivalayam-Sripuram-Canada' connections, instead of venting his ire on Brahmins & Hinduism. Otherwise, he should stop writing and take to the profession of 'Evangelization', which is the most prolific, lucrative & state-supported job in India at present and very soon he can establish a Multi-Dollar Empire in the name of "Jesus Missed-Calls" or "Jesus Call-Diverts" or even "SMSs to Jesus". After all, Jesus 'creates vacancies' in the field of evangelization then and there! Even for this job, "Nuni-pull Maeithal" of Bible will not help and one should read & understand it completely. Best Wishes to George the Evangelist!

-- B. R. Haran,

PS: - "Express" has been already 'chronicled' as a "Passenger" and if this kind of a 'trend' continues, 'Times' would come for its "Derailment"! Beware!

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Wondering, how Goenka's paper is allowing you to write the divisive trash, week after week:

Your divisive writings and your hatred for Hinduism shows, that you are not an Indian at heart. You still consider yourself, an imported Syrian Christian

You are so naïve and stupid in separating Hinduism and brahminism – in line with the Marxists, Mullahs and Missionaries – they thought that by destroying brahminiasm, Hinduism can be destroyed and communisim, islam and Christianity can take over.

Why are you not discussing about Protestants and Christianity, shia, sunni and Islam? Being an imported Christian, why you have a fancy only for criticizing
Hinduism?

George, can you tell a country, where all people are equal in all respects. You have, without any stuff, become an Editor in Express whereas I have
not become. Again, your sewerage trash is published in front page whereas my letters are mostly consigned to waste paper basket. Why? Are you not more equal than me.?

George, have you ever entertained a scavenger in your dining room. Have you ever called a beggar for your birth day bash, in a five star hotel? For whom, you are preaching?

One thing George – you have fattened yourself at the cost of Hindus but still shamelessly, try to divide the Hindu society like the British thieves. Mind you, according to a report published by the Govt. of India, the maximum land holdings, next to the Indian government, are in the hands of Christians like you. Can it happen anywhere in the world? Still, you try to divide the society, wearing a respectable cloak as Editor, Indian Express. I am wondering, how Goenka's paper is allowing you to write the divisive trash, week after week.

-- N. Mohan

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Greater Idiot no man has seen than this, our George!

Ask Tjs George to go through the following and he will come to know about The Ten Commandments. Unnecessarily he is trying to attack Hinduism--Tamil is Part of Hinduism

Just by Destroying or twisting Mother India’s History--Truth will not get Suppressed--Missionaries have been instrumental in mutilating facts about India and Tamil Nadu which is controlled by the Church-- is yet to get out of the gutter hold of the missionaries -- That is why Justice Party--Now the Dravidians--was created in 1860s.

Greater Idiot no man has seen than this, our George!

-- "Bramhasthra"

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1. Rebuttal from H. Balakrishnan: -

Dear Sir,

Reference the 'gutter inspector', 'Georgie-Porgie Pudding and Pie's", 'Give us this day our Sabbath bread' – “God, Karunanidhi – and pre – Brahmin glory” – (TNSE, 24 Feb).

Our 'gutter inspector's' predilection towards Hindu baiting is well known over the years, and there are too many instances in my archives to bear repetition here. After all, it is this despicable homo sapien, who after the Malegaon blasts had hinted at 'unbearded variety of terrorists'!! They all follow a pattern, that has been succinctly brought out by George Thundiparambil in his perceptive essay, “Who is afraid of the Hindu Nation?” he wrote, "For Indians who are aware of the anti-hindu agendas of Christian, Islamic and Communist organizations in India and abroad, it is neither shocking nor surprising that numerous NGOs have sprung up throughout the country, which act as sole agents for these aliens and hostile organizations". He further added: "Start your career by unleashing a tirade against Hindus and Hindu civilization. In order to become successful as a mercenary, start an NGO and visit the USA and tell the Christian fundamentalists there what they want to hear: how evil and backward the unconverted, pagan Hindus are. The password is 'Anti-Hindu'." Fits our 'gutter inspector to the proverbial 'T'!!Also, I wonder where our Quisling went 'begging' for the 'Greenbacks'? ( REF: " NGOs, Activists and Foreign Funds – Anti-Nation Industry" – pp 286, 291).

The 'Chritian fundamentalist gutter inspector' waxes eloquent about EVR and his movement. These were the worthies who wanted the 'Raj' to continue and contributed 'ZILCH' to our Freedom Struggle. Only a guttersnipe will find virtue in such worthies!!

Our baiter then goes on to state, in his Sabbath diatribe 'after all, the far more powerful Jaina- Buddhist philosophies were overwhelmed too'. Implied here is that Vedic civilization did in the Buddhist-Jaina philosophies!! History tells us otherwise. Swami Vivekananda tells us about Buddhism : "It became a mass of corruption of which I cannot speak before the audience - -, I have neither the time nor the inclination to describe to you the hideousness that came in the wake of Buddhism. The most hideous ceremonies, the most horrible, the most obscene books that human hands ever wrote or the human brain ever conceived, the most bestial forms that ever passed under the name of religion, have all been the creation of degraded Buddhism - -". ( REF: "Swami Vivekananda – Collected Works – Vol 3 – pp 265). Sri Aurobindo alludes to another factor, an inherent incompatibility. He wrote: " - - the exclusive trenchancy of its [ Buddhism ] intellectual, ethical and spiritual positions - - its trenchant affirmations and still more exclusive negations could not be made sufficiently compatible with the native flexibility, many-sided susceptibility and rich synthetic turn of the Indian religious consciousness; it was high creed but not plastic enough to hold the heart of the people".(REF: "Sri Aurobindo: The Foundations of Indian Culture" – 1968 – pp 75, 160-161, 192-193). Add to this the 'Sword of Islam' and History tells us the reasons for the demise of Buddhism in Bharat. And yet, to our Hindu baiter, in tune with the 'Colonial Harvesters' writings, these were 'highly evolved philosophies'!!

Our gutter inspector wants the readers to believe 'One sought to elevate common people to higher social-spiritual levels through education; the other prescribed that the lower orders should not be exposed to learning'. EUREKA!!

Our Hindu baiter will certainly be ignorant of (late) Shri Dharampal, the well known Gandhian and historian of Indian Science. He has given a detailed accounts of the extensive indigenous system of education that was thriving in India before the British came in his famous book, The Beautiful Tree. Dharampal's account is based on the British Collector's reports when they came to India and were asked to report on state of the indigenous education. The most well-known and decisive point, which emerged from the educational surveys, lies in an examination made by William Adam. He, in his observations found that there existed about 1,00,000 village schools in Bengal and Bihar around the 1830s. Men like Thomas Munro, had observed that 'every village had a school'. Observations made by Dr. G.W.Leitner in 1882 show that the spread of education in the Punjab around 1850 was of a similar extent. At about the same time, England had very few schools for the children of ordinary people till about 1800, and many of the older grammar school were in poor state. According to this hard data, in terms of the content, the proportion of those attending institutional school education in India in 1800 is certainly not inferior to what obtained in England then; and in many respects Indian schooling seems to have been much more extensive. The content of studies was better in India than in England. The method of school teaching was superior in India at that time. The school attendance, especially in the district of Madras Presidency, even in the decayed state of the period 1822-25, was proportionately far higher than the numbers in all variety of schools in England in 1800.

As an example, the government of Madras presidency completed a survey of Indian educational institutions in 1823-24. After that it came to be known that despite the poverty and disturbance, there were about 13,000 schools and 740 colleges under the presidency. According to this survey the original number of students in school and colleges were 1,88,650 out of which 42,502 were Brahmans and 85,400 were from the castes known as Shudras. The remaining were Vaishya, Mohammedan and from other Hindu castes. The numbers of girls were only 4540, but according to the report this lesser number of girls as alleged was mainly due to the prevalence of home education of girls. But the number of Mohammedan girl students in Malabar district was very large. The number of girl students there was 1,122 and for boy students 3196. 'Lower orders should not be exposed to learning' eh? Any wonder then Mahatma Gandhiji stated at the Royal Institute of International Affairs, London, in Oct 1931: "Today India is more illiterate than it was fifty or hundred years ago."

Now our Quisling in profound wisdom states: 'There are researchers who point to Buddhist and Jain temples that were either destroyed or built over during an era of resurgent Brahminism'. He doesn't tell who the 'researchers' are!! They are WELL KNOWN. I'll name them – Padma Bhushan Romila Thapar, Padma Bhushan Irfan Habib, R.S. Sharma, Bipan Chandra, Satish Chandra, Harbans Singh Mukhia et al. All 'products' of that 'School for Scoundrels' that goes by the name of 'Jawaharlal Nehru University'!! When challenged on their 'you scratch my back, I scratch yours' findings, these 'Eminent Historians' suddenly discovered the virtues of silence. In his 'bare the Quislings' masterpiece – "Eminent Historians: Their Technology, Their Line, THEIR FRAUD", (pp 99), Arun Shourie wrote: "But today, the fashion is to ascribe the extinction of Buddhism to the persecution of Buddhists by Hindus, to the destruction of their temples by the Hindus. One point is that the Marxist historians who have been perpetrating this falsehood have not been able to produce even an iota of evidence to substantiate the concoction. In one typical instance, Romila Thapar had cited THREE inscriptions. The indefatigable Sita Ram Goel looked them up. Two of these turned out to have absolutely no connection with Buddhist VIHARAS or their destruction, and the one that did deal with an object being destroyed had been held by authorities to have been a concoction." Q.E.D.!! So much for the 'RESEARCHERS'. 'LIARS INC'!!

As if this was not enough, our gutter inspector, next throws his glance towards the 'Aryan Invasion Theory'. His ignorance is appalling, to say the least. The 'Eminent Historians' have already backtracked from the 'Invasion' to 'Migration'. We await the day for their grandiose discovery of the 'Tourism Theory'!! Be that as it may, the BBC has debunked the Aryan Invasion Theory, a few years ago. Its salient findings were: 'The theory was not just wrong, some say, but included unacceptably racist ideas:

• it suggested that Indian culture was not a culture in its own right, but a synthesis of elements from other cultures
• it implied that Hinduism was not an authentically Indian religion but the result of cultural imperialism
• it suggested that Indian culture was static, and only changed under outside influences
• it suggested that the dark-skinned Dravidian people of the South of India had got their faith from light-skinned Aryan invaders
• it implied that indigenous people were incapable of creatively developing their faith
• it suggested that indigenous peoples could only acquire new religious and cultural ideas from other races, by invasion or other processes
• it accepted that race was a biologically based concept (rather than, at least in part, a social construct) that provided a sensible way of ranking people in a hierarchy, which provided a partial basis for the caste system
• it provided a basis for racism in the Imperial context by suggesting that the peoples of Northern India were descended from invaders from Europe and so racially closer to the British Raj
• it gave a historical precedent to justify the role and status of the British Raj, who could argue that they were transforming India for the better in the same way that the Aryans had done thousands of years earlier
• it downgraded the intellectual status of India and its people by giving a falsely late date to elements of Indian science and culture

And, our 'gutter inspector' wants to perpetuate a Theory that has been dead, buried and gone. So much for intellectualism in Indian journalism!! Any wonder then, journalism in India has all but lost its credibility.

As for our polemicists diatribe against the so-called 'Brahminism', it follows in letter and spirit the writings of the 'Colonial Harvesters of Souls'. Robert Caldwell, the Bishop of Tirunelveli, for example!! In his well researched treatise

"Sarasvati River and the Vedic Civilization: History, Science and Politics", Dr. N.S. Rajaram (an OBC in today's nomenclature), wrote (pp 56-57):

" Christian propagandists like Caldwell were unhappy that they could get converts only from the lower strata of Hindu society. Regardless of internal divisions, all segments of Hindu society – and many Muslims as well – looked to the Brahmins for moral and intellectual guidance. Caldwell and his fellow missionaries saw Brahmins as the greatest obstacle to their program. So they attacked Brahmins in the most venomous language as oppressors of society. THIS IS STILL THE CASE. The idea was to turn the people against those who were seen as preservers and perpetuators of Hindu culture and tradition. The idea of dividing a conquered people and creating antagonisms was STANDARD MISSIONAY TACTIC'." Q.E.D.

In stark contrast to our unlettered gutter inspector, here are quotes from internationally renowned and 'cultured' human beings, on our Vedic civilization.

Mark Twain, American author: "India is, the cradle of the human race, the birthplace of human speech, the mother of history, the grandmother of legend, and the great grand mother of tradition. our most valuable and most instructive materials in the history of man are treasured up in India only."

Romain Rolland, French scholar : " If there is one place on the face of earth where all the dreams of living men have found a home from the very earliest days when man began the dream of existence, it is India."

Will Durant, American historian: " India was the motherland of our race, and Sanskrit the mother of Europe's languages: she was the mother of our philosophy; mother, through the Arabs, of much of our mathematics; mother, through the Buddha, of the ideals embodied in Christianity; mother, through the village community, of self-government and democracy. Mother India is in many ways the mother of us all".

For our Quisling, here is the concluding part of Sri Aurobindo's famous speech at Uttarpara on 30 May 1909: “I say no longer that nationalism is a creed, a religion, a faith; I say that it is the Sanatan Dharma which for us is nationalism. This Hindu nation was born with the Sanatan Dharma, with it it moves and with it it grows. When the Sanatan Dharma declines, then the nation declines, and if the Sanatan Dharma were capable of perishing, with the Sanatan Dharma it would perish. The Sanatan Dharma, that is nationalism. This is the message that I have to speak to you.”

In conclusion, I have no hesitations in stating that TJS George is a mentally deranged Hindu baiter. He is in urgent need of visiting a shrink. I recommend permanent interning of this Quisling at the NIMHANS, Bengaluru. The gloves are off from today.

Thank you TNSE for ruining my morning cuppa.

H. Balakrishnan

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Rebuttal from K. Vijayan:-

Sir

Modi bashing is not remunerative anymore. Cannot expect any rupiahs from muhammedan sources either since it has become evident even to the kudiyaanavan from Thirunelveli that the Indian Muslim from educated and un-deprived backgrounds is as involved, perhaps more involved in Islamic terror than the ISI, Alqaeda, or Taliban. Neither Sonia nor Secularism can prevent George from landing in jail under the Prevention of Unlawful Acrivities Act -- or getting clobbered in an encounter -- if he roots for Afzals, Madhanis and other great Indian Muslim (or Muslim Indian) Terrorists.

He will not say a word against lawless lawyers, marauding murdering Kazhaga Kanmanis who set fire to newspaper offices and roast staff, or padiris and nuns who rape and kill schoolgirls, and help bury bodies in their missionary hospitals – he does not have the guts for that; not after having been the beneficiary of their largesse all these years, and "future prospects".

He cannot direct people's ire against Communists or their Maomarxian Terror Wing either for the same reasons.

However Good Shepherd George has to fill up his weekly Hate-India, hate-Hindu, India Balkanising column. So nothing left but to try to play the ancient British Christian Game of dividing the Hindu ranks with distortions of History, half-truths and downright lies.

Let George answer the following questions:

1. In what way is Karunanidhi (or any other third rate Kazhagam goon or Christian for that matter) going to some temples any different in purpose, motivation or effect than Sonia, Samuel Rajasekhar Reddy or Achuthananthan visiting Thirupathi, Sammakka Sarakka or Sabarimalai?

2. How does George certify that K visited the Vellore temple for "philanthrophy" – is it his investigative-journalist knowledge, a Kazhagam hand-out for the Press, or his own point of view? Heard anything about a rumour doing the rounds that much of the gold-cladding was from his much-adored "atheistic" leader's unaccounted money?

3. The "intellectual foundations" of Periyar's Dravida Movement was more based upon ego and loyalty to the British Crown, and Brahmin Hatred was a diversionary ploy like Hitler's anti-semitism. Periyar's ego was no less than that of Jinnah and similarly motivated. It had nothing to do with removing the inequities of Caste or reforming Hinduism or freeing India from the British. So what "political equations in Tamil country" have been "transformed", and what is the meaning of the rhetorical flourish "for ever". The Congress was eclipsed because of Periyaar's anti North Indian Stance, but it can ride back on the crest again if it whole-heartedly espoused Hinduthva. The only thing holding the Congress back is Antonia-Sonia, Global Christianity and their money-power.

4. Jainism and Buddhism are products of reformist waves within Hinduism. There was never any ethnic cleansing of Jains, Buddhists, Shaivites, Vaishnavites, Sikhs by any group of Hindus in India at any time. Rajiv's Sikh pogrom was not based upon religion, George Boy, or was it? Did Shankaracharya (The First) or his anointed heirs mount any Pogrom or Inquisition of the type St.Francis of Goa led against Hindus? Or like the many Communist Purges, a tradition continued in Tintinmen, Nandigram etc. We do not think even Romilla or Irfan Habib and other Red Headed ICHR Story writers made such claims. But history abounds with Christian destruction of cultures, and civilizations. Can George deny this? Hinduism does not believe or practice conversion – it grows and will grow on inclusion. People will gravitate from one group into another within the Hindu fold naturally and without force, inducements or honeytraps.

5. No "Vedic Tradition insisted on segregation" as far as our reading, knowledge, experience and from what we have heard from experts' discourses goes. But the "discriminationist school" prevails Globally – much more in George's spiritual Homelands. Is the two-tumbler system Vedically sanctioned? Humans differ from each other – and only that individual difference is accepted and recognized. How many of the 63 Naayanmaars were Brahmins? How many of the Thirthankaaras feature in Srimad Bhagavatham?

6. If the Jaina-Buddhist and Self-Respect religions succumbed, or are succumbing to "Vedic Certainties" how can George describe them as "much more powerful" philosophies?

7. If the "powerful Buddhists" were suppressed in India but flourished in East, is it because there they perverted the basic Buddhist philosophy of Ahimsa, Equality etc and developed and mastered only Martial Arts, Tantric Worship, Invasion and Rapine, Slavery etc? Genghis Khan was a Buddhist too, as much as St.Francis was a Catholic Christian.

8. Historians, other than our Commie-Cutwa-Christian ICHR ones, have debunked and discredited the Indo-Aryan Theories, but apparently this George and Political animals like Karunanidhis still choose to be stuck in a Periyaar Time Warp. There have been reformers too numerous to mention in Hinduism, not just Ramanuja, Basava or Madhava. Many still around today. Jains, Buddhists and Sikhs are very much a part of the Hindu-Indian Religion, culture and ethos. Hindus have not crucified their Saviours, Saints or Scientists or Reformers. Islam and Christianity are not part of India's ethos, nor will they be allowed by Georgian ilk to integrate with India. The Jains are perhaps the richest community in India and the papers George writes for is also owned by Jains. Is George trying to wean away Jains from the Hindu Mainstream, having failed to wean Indians away from Modi?

9. Does George know that Tholkaapian was a Brahmin and Thiruvalluvar's father was a Brahmin and mother a shudra? What price George's "products of a pre-brahminic flowering"? Think out the implications of this Georgie, before you get all worked up and seminal about Puthussery Ramachandra. And pray what was this "flourishing linguistic culture" established by Buddhists and Jains before Brahmins arrived" – Indus Valley Script, Sanskrit, Pali, Nagari, Sangam Tamil or Ezhuthhacchan's Malayalam? Hinduism dates from far and away beyond your very poor knowledge of history. Brahmins have always been around, and are just one aspect of it, a very vital aspect but not the only reason Hinduism has survived the Cutwa-Christian assault - and will outlive both. The Dravidian South happens to be 85 percent Hindu too, just like the North. Macaulaay's calculations that getting rid of Brahmins you can dominate India is way off the mark.

10. Finally Georgie's articles are based on lies, ignorance and malafide. Just like his Syrian Christian Faith which is based upon the Myth of St.(Doubting) Thomas, the Church at San Thome and the half a dozen graves where he is supposed to buried in India and abroad. Ask Sonia's Nazi Pope about it if you do not believe us.

George's writings are "animated sewage"; a very apt phrase, though not one we thought up. Our language tends to get four-letteredly flowery when we deal with anti-national elements.

K.Vijayan

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Rebuttal from B. R. Haran:-

Sir

This is with reference to "God, Karunanidhi-–and pre-Brahmin glory" by T.J.S.George. Karunanidhi is NOT a symbol of atheist politics, as told by George. He is a 'true' symbol of 'fake' politics! The 'Thondargal' (cadres) of DMK and the common people of Tamil Nadu have not understood that he is a 'fake' atheist. The 'yellow shawl' worn by him allegedly on the advice of a Shivite Scholar and astrologer and the hundred and one 'rational' reasons, which he has given for wearing it, is a classic example for his 'hidden faith' on God and Religion. His family and inner circle knew his allegiance to God and religion. His visit to the Golden Temple under the guise of philanthropy is actually 'faith' based and that is why he did a "Prathakshinam" (circumambulation) around the temple sitting in his car. In fact, the fakeness of Karunanithi's atheism came to the fore the day when he joined the minorities to share their "Kanji & Cakes" on the days of "Ramzan & Christmas" respectively. George has also exhibited his ignorance when he attached 'intellect' with the Dravidian Movement. The fact of the matter is, there is nothing brainy or intelligent about 'Dravidianism' but only 'cunningness' attached with it and this so-called Dravidian Movement was started only to cheat the gullible and innocent Tamils and rule over them. The ignorant & innocent Tamils lost their self-respect & dignity when they yielded to the 'fanciful fakes' of the "Non-Tamil Thanthai" (Father) & "Non-Tamil Thanaians" (Sons), in the name of Tamil and self-respect. There was nothing like 'Brahmin Hegemony', which needed a call for demolition, but the anti-Tamil EVR gave a call in that guise and demolished the hoary culture of Tamils through his 'anti-Brahmin' strategy in the name of the fake concept called Aryan-Dravidian Theory. This ugly concept will not last for ever as imagined by Goerge, but it is already dead, thanks to the 'open believers' like MGR and Jayalalitha and the 'secret believers' like Karunanidhi. Now we have motley & miniscule crowd of "Black Rats" (DK chaps), may be less than even a hundred, under the leadership of alleged 'sole inheritor' of EVR's Dravidian properties, chameleon Veeramani, who changes his colours (adds or removes 'white') & allegiance depending on which Kazhagam is in power.

George has coined a word "Brahminic Hinduism", a silly act similar to the act of coining the word "Hinduism" by the Abrahamic Religionists to narrow down the universal & eternal concept of "Sanathana Dharma" to their cheap level. George's blabbering on Vedic civilization and its tradition, exposes the Christian agenda of dividing the Hindus, which the Indian converts like George, has inherited from their European masters. George has also attempted to alienate Buddhism and Jainism from Sanathana Dharma, an attempt which again had failed many times in the past. The main concept of Buddhism is 'Ahimsa', but is it under practice in all those countries where it has spread? The people of those countries eat everything above & below the sea level and under the sky and they say that Buddha is their God! If a religion cannot survive in the country of its origin, where else it can flourish? This itself shows that Buddhism is not a separate religion, but only a slight deviation from Sanathana Dharma. George must know that even Budhhist Educational Institutions named "Gatikasthanams" have taught Vedas & Upanishads. All divisions like Shivism, Vishnavism, Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism are all part of the same family of Sanathana Dharma and they have their own slightly deviated paths, but reach the same goal. Dr.Ambedkar, who was dead against the revealed religions and their conversion agendas, advised the Harijans to convert to only Buddhism. Why? Because he wanted the people of Bharat to remain under the umbrella of Sanathana Dharma and he understood the ugliness & fakeness of Abrahamic Religions.

George has also waxed eloquent and showcased his knowledge on Indian & Tamil history by saying that Brahmins "arrived" in Southern India and that Buddhists and Jains had established a flourishing linguistic culture in the region. What linguistic culture is he talking about? Sanskrit is the mother of all languages and all the Barathiya languages evolved under it and their evolution was also based on the factors prevailing in their respective regions. George must know that Tholkappiar was a Brahmin and he was the disciple of Sage Agasthiyar who was also a Brahmin and whose abode was "Podhigai Hills" which is an integral part of Tamil Nadu. Let George learn the fact that the eternal "Siddhars" have given immortal Tamil Works and many of those Siddhars are Brahmins and Sage Agasthiyar is one among them. Even the Jain & Buddhist works such as Silappathikaram & Manimekalai talk extensively about Brahmins and Vedic traditions. We have Brahmins in the list of Nayanmars and Alwars also. That "Brahmins were the ancient dwellers of not only North but also South in general and Tamil Nadu in particular" is an irrefutable fact and George cannot sell the theory that they 'arrived' from the North.

He says that the classical literary works of Sangam Period, from Tholkappiam to Thirukkural, were products of Pre-Brahmin flowering, which again is the same old Christian hogwash, sold by the people like Caldwell, Vincent Smith, Eros Padhire and Joseph Bhesky (Veerama Munivar). G.U.Pope also belongs to the same ugly category, who tried to sell the theory that St.Thomas and other sailors taught Christian & Alexandrian principles to Thiruvalluvar on the beaches of Mylapore and guided him to write Thirukkural. Another man Roberti Nobili was wearing the holy thread (Poonal) and practiced Brahminical customs with the sole aim of converting people to Christianity. One more poonal-wearing white man "Abraham Pandithar" indulged in giving medicinal treatments to people thereby converting them. Even now we have a street named after him in Thanjavur called "Abraham Pandithar Theru". The famous "Maraimalai Adigal" in whose name our Kalaignar had changed the Tamil New Year was allegedly addressed as "Padhire Magan' in the areas in and around Nagapattinam. All these Christians learnt Tamil, not with an intention of serving the language or culture, but only to distort the actual history and damage the native culture and convert the people to Christianity. All these have been done as per the Vatican orders. In the process of evangelization, they have produced a sort of 'evangelical language', which has done immense damage to the beauty & sanctity of Divine Tamil.

We have had many Brahmin Poets, Kshathriya Poets, Vaishya Poets and Shuthra Poets in Sangam Literature and that is the beauty of Vedic Civilisation. This clearly shows that all classes of people had access to education and no one was prevented from getting educated. So, the Vedic civilization never prohibited a section of the society from learning as imagined by George. In fact, Varnashrama Dharma was practiced not to segregate or discriminate as naively said by George, but for the progress of civilization and development of a society, where all classes of people were coexisting peacefully & harmoniously. The ancient Kings & Emperors of Bharat, from North to South and from East to West, have always revered the Brahmins & Vedic Scholars and treated them with utmost respect, for the fact that, they are the protectors of the society, culture, traditions & civilization. Because of this reason only, the Moghuls focused more on persecuting and liquidating the Brahmins, as they believed that the elimination of Brahmins would lead to the destruction of civilization. Because of this reason only, the British cunningly conceived the Aryan-Dravidian Theory. There is a Tamil saying "Nuni-Pull Maeithal" meaning, "grazing only the top portion of the grass" and that is what George has done with Indian & Tamil History.

While concluding his article, George has again blabbered that 'Pre-Brahmin cultural-literary glory would not fade and its precious pre-politics as well'. The fact of the matter is, the Brahmins have contributed immensely to the glorious status of the culture & literature in every part of this great nation. The clear evidence lies in the last forty years of 'Dravidian Culture', which stands ugly & stinking and this lousy Dravidian Culture, which sans the Brahmin touch, has damaged & devastated the literary & cultural glory of Tamil Nadu. Even in the last century, Brahmins like U.V.Swaminatha Aiyer, K.V.Jagannathan, Bharathiyar, Rajaji, Kalki Krishnamoorthy, Gopalaiyyar and many other stalwarts have done phenomenally great service to Tamil language and culture than the so-called Dravidian Leaders. A Nation or a Civilization would survive and succeed only when Brahmins play a central role in politics and administration. That is why 'Devas' had one "Brahaspathi" and 'Asuras' had a "Sukracharya" and 'Dasaratha' had one "Vasishta" and 'Chandra Guptha' took the guidance of "Chanakya" and that has been our tradition. Even in Independent India, we have seen many great politicians from Dr.Rajaji to Mr.Vajpayee, and many Brahmins in civil and military administrations, in executive, legislature & Judiciary, who have played a magnificent role in the development of this Great Hindu Nation!

The unholy "Dravidian- Marxist-Mullah-Missionary" nexus is trying its level best to demolish the glorious "Tamil-Hindu" culture for the last five decades, but only in vain. If George is frustrated by the pro-God antics of Mr.Karunanidhi, he must write to Karunanidhi or investigate & unearth the actual facts of 'Arivalayam-Sripuram-Canada' connections, instead of venting his ire on Brahmins & Hinduism. Otherwise, he should stop writing and take to the profession of 'Evangelization', which is the most prolific, lucrative & state-supported job in India at present and very soon he can establish a Multi-Dollar Empire in the name of "Jesus Missed-Calls" or "Jesus Call-Diverts" or even "SMSs to Jesus". After all, Jesus 'creates vacancies' in the field of evangelization then and there! Even for this job, "Nuni-pull Maeithal" of Bible will not help and one should read & understand it completely. Best Wishes to George the

Evangelist!

B. R. Haran,

PS: - "Express" has been already 'chronicled' as a "Passenger" and if this kind of a 'trend' continues, 'Times' would come for its "Derailment"! Beware!

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Rebuttal from N. Mohan:-

Respected George,

GOD, KARUNANIDHI AND PRE-BRAHMIN GLORY – POINT OF VIEW – TNSE 24/2/08

Your divisive writings and your hatred for Hinduism shows, that you are not an Indian at heart. You still consider yourself, an imported Syrian Christian
1. Syrian Christians came as refugees to Kerala and hindus , welcomed them with open arms. They flourished and became prosperous in all fields. When Portuguese came, they sided with the Portuguese christians and back-stabbed hindus. Still hindus, treated them with warmth and human touch. Syrian chritians are the most prosperous community in India. Having prosperoued in Hindu India and having taken the Indian salt, you are showing your true colours, thus exposing yourself as a traitor.

2. Pope called,St.Thomas, as a myth ,created for harvesting of souls in India. You never write about this. There are historical records to show that the Santhome Church in Chennai was built on a Siva temple. You never write about this. Why?

3. Kenneth Humphrey, a British theologian, wrote a book JESUS NEVER EXISTED. The book was published by Iconoclast Press, Uckfield, East Sussex, U.K. You never write about this. Why? You like only the addressless Puthussery Ramachandran because, he must be a commie and that is the reason, he is running down Hinduism. What can be expected from traitorous commies
who supported the British during the Quit India movement? The commies open their umbrellas if there is rain in Moscow or Beijing. Shameless fellows. You never write that during the Communists revolutions in Russia, China and other places, more than 40 million innocent citizens were massacred. What the communists have done in Kerala. According to a study conducted by a social organization, 75% of the work-force of Kerala is employed outside and as a Syrian Christian keralite, you are talking about Brahmin, non-brahmin divisions. What a shame!

4. Our Ex.President, Abdul Kalam once said that, history says that people all over the world have come and invaded us, captured our lands, conquered our minds. From Alexandar onwards. The Greeks, the Turks.the Moguls,the Portuguese, the British, the French, the Dutch, all of them came and looted us, killed us and took over what was ours. Yet we have not done this to any other nation. We have not conquered anyone. We have not grabbed their land, their culture, their history and tried to force our way of life on them. Why, because, we respect the freedom of others. Hey George, this is what real Indians think. You are pouring sewerage week after week. And it is a shame, you are working in Goenka's paper. May his Soul Rest in Peace.

5. Coming to pre-Brahmin glory. George, you have exposed your ignorance. You lack elementary knowledge of history and geography. Tolkoppiar was a tamil Brahmin. So also Thirugnana Sambandar, Manickavasar, and Appar – who gave the great tamil DEVARAM, THIRUVASAGAM ETC, were Brahmins. In fact, 99% of the tamil literature, owes its origin to Brahmins.

5. You are so naïve and stupid in separating Hinduism and brahminism – in line with the Marxists, Mullahs and Missionaries – they thought that by destroying Brahmins and brahminiasm, Hinduism can be destroyed and communisim, islam and Christianity can take over.

6. Even BBC has consigned the Aryan theory to dust bin. DNA studies had proved that the arayan theory was a myth created by the British to divide the Indians. How Brahmins alone can be Aryans. According to your friend Romila Thapar – I quote "among the Aryan clan, a small percentage of people were devoting themselves to religious activities. They were called Brahmins. Unquote The question arises – where are the other Aryans – arya-kshatriyas, vysyas and sudras. George, ask your commie friend Ramachandran.

7. Caldwell, the British clergy, who wrote 'COMPARATIVE GRAMMER OF THE DRAVIDIAN OR SOUTH INDIAN, observed that the Dravidians were Scythians who brought the Scythian language which later became dravidian. So the British talked about two invasions – Aryan and Dravidian, meaning that India never had a culture of it s own.And stupid George, you are talking
about Dravidian glory.

8. Again, according to T.G. Ramachandra Rao, an eminent journalist and a historian of Chennai – quote "Silappadhikaram assets that the tamil speaking people lived in a land called Kumari Kandam in the Indian ocean and when it submerged in the sea, they migranted to the Indian sub-continent via old Kavatapuram in Sri Lanka and possibly utilized the Ram Sethu which was
existing above the sea level to ener south India and occupy the present Tamil Nadu which was inhabited by vedic-brahmins living in small communes near river banks. Ancient tamil sangam literature including tholkappium point to this. Tamil speaking people were not the original inhabitants of India. They were not Dravidians. Brahmins of south India were called Pancha dravidas anad the Brahmins of north were called Gowdas, in ancient times.When tamil scholars are prepared to accept the writings of Greeks and Romans regarding Atlantis and Lemuria, why not accept the writings of our ancient tamils?" unquote – George, call for an explanation from Puthussery Ramachandran.

9. As far as your love for Budhism – it is the Budhism following Lanka - which has massacred innocent tamilians – and Budhist monks are in the forefront. Again Budhism following Burma – there is no democracy and the Burmese were responsible for driving out the hapless tamils from Burma. The less we talk about the Budhist atrocities in Cambodia and other places.George, why can't you emigrate to Burma, Sri Lanka or Cambodia? You need not worry about Hinduism, brahminism etc. All are equal in these counries and
you can have a heavenly life.

10. Why are you not discussing about Protestants and Christianity, shia, sunni and Islam?Being an imported Christian, why you have a fancy only for criticizing
Hinduism?

11. The temple which Karuna visited is built by a non-brahmin. Again, Karunanidhi is not atheist in the real sense. He and his followers, consume maximum gruel during Ramzan and cut huge cakes, during Christian functions. According to Karuna, God exists in Islam and Christianity. Again, EVR and his followers, never attacked Lord Muruga or Goddess Mariamman because according to them, Lord Muruga and Goddess Mariamman area tamil Gods. Again, the Dravidian parties never attack Bangaru Adigalar or the various Madathipathis of Atheena Madams, because, they are not Brahmins. Karuna uses brahminism and Brahmins as a punching bag, to show his athism. Till date, Karuna, has not given an explanation for the yellow shawl.

12. Again Periyar, was a Kannadiga, who called tamil, a barbaric language and tamilians fools. He made fun of Kannagi, Thiruvalluvar etc. He wanted British rule to continue. His Justice Party gave a letter to the British that even if India is given independence, tamil nadu must be ruled by the British. Any other country would have called him a traitor and you are talking about his intellectual foundations. How stupid you are?

13. Again, most of the leaders in tamilnadu are not tamilians. EVR and Jayalalitha – Kannadigas. MGR malayalee. Karunanidhi, Vaiko,Vijaykanth, Arcot Veerasamy etc, are telegus. So much for your tamil glory.

14. George, can you tell a country, where all people are equal in all respects. You have, without any stuff, has become an Editor in Express whereas I have not become. Again, your sewerage trash is published in front page whereas my letters are mostly consigned to waste paper basket. Why? Are you not more equal than me.?

15. Again , have you forgotten about APARTHEID, RACISM, EXTERMINATION OF 100 MILLION NATIVES IN AMERICA, EXERMINATION OF 100 MILLION HINDUS BY MOGUL INVADERS, EXTERMINATION OF ABORGINALS IN AUSTRALIA, ETC. THE LIST IS ENDLESS.

16. George, have you ever entertained a scavenger in your dining room. Have you ever called a beggar for your birth day bash, in a five star hotel. For whom, you are preaching?

17. One thing George – you have fattened yourself at the cost of Hindus but still shamelessly, try to divide the Hindu society like the British thieves. Mind you, according to a report published by the Govt. of India, the maximum land holdings, next to the Indian government, are in the hands of Christians like you. Can it happen anywhere in the world? Still, you try to divide the society, wearing a respectable cloak as Editor, Indian Express. I am wondering, how Goenka's paper is allowing you to write the divisive trash, week after week.

N. Mohan

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From: "Bramhasthra"
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 11:42 PM
Subject: Ask Tjs Geoge to go through the following and he will come to know about The Ten Commandments. Unnecessarily he is trying to attack Hinduism--Tamil is Part of Hinduism

Just by Destroying or twisting Mother India’s History--Truth will not get Suppressed--Missionaries have been instrumental in mutilating facts about India and Tamil Nadu which is controlled by the Church-- is yet to get out of the gutter hold of the missionaries -- That is why Justice Party--Now the Dravidians--was created in 1860s.

Greater Idiot no man has seen than this, our George!

Point Of view T J S George Sunday Express: 24-02-2008

God, Karunanidhi—and pre-Brahmin glory

KARUNANIDHI went to a temple in Vellore for purposes of philanthropy, not worship. (Sez you. He did not go because the stench of Hindu Money was overpowering. Not because creeping old age, atavistic memories and fears of the hereafter were beginning to get him. Not because Family superstitions compounded by his own Yellow Shawl covered mooda nambikkais either. Georgie you are incredible.) Even so it attracted headlines in Tamil Nadu because the DMK patriarch is a symbol of atheistic politics. (And wafflespeak, bafflespeak, doublespeak and mumbling too – remember the “naanaasthigun” riposte?) That he should enter the premises of a temple and share the limelight with priests in saffron (were they clad in saffron you colour-blind porno-journo?) was enough to raise the question: In the ageless tussle between Brahminic Hinduism and its challengers, was the balance tipping in favour of Brahminism again? (Read History and enquire around you knuckleheaded Christian. Dialogue is common and reforms frequent in Hinduism and there was never any “Brahminic Brand” in Hinduism - except in the perverted minds of the Aulaads of Macaulay and Babar. That sort of Branded religion exists only in Commercial, Colonising, Exploitative and Enslaving Religions – like yours. Brahmins are not analogous to your Pope, his Cardinals and Padiris and the Holy Roman Empire. And if you have read Manu Smrithi your mind will be cleansed of much of the shit implanted there. )

The intellectual foundations of Periyar's Dravida movement were rejection of God and the nurturing of Self-Respect. (And the Rock of Ages on which he started building was total allegiance to the British Crown. He begged them on bended knee not to Quit India or at least the Madras Presidency. Figuratively speaking of course; he had not even seen his toes for decades having grown fat on beef and pork supplied free by the British.) His call for the demolition of Brahmin hegemony transformed social and political equations in Tamil country for ever. (He was only playing the D & R game which was started by the likes of Maculay, Caldwell, Max Mueller and was that rare Indian of that Era - a full-blooded Traitor.) And yet one half of his modern-day inheritors is led by an undisguised Brahmin. (Most other halves’ mothers might have been impregnated by Brahmins too. Miscegeny was never a reprehensible, illegal or socially verboten thing in Hindu ethos. Never dig into rishi moolam or nadhi moolam, Georgie, we have come across many Syrian Christians, Muslims and others who proudly claim Brahmin origins.) The other half, already compromised by creeping influences of such early No-Nos as astrology, now witnesses its supreme leader supping with God's chosen representatives on earth. (The God’s reps. you prefer to hint at are either a lady from the Fisher Caste, or Shudras in your current favourite Atheist Demagogue’s lingo. Not Brahmins. Wise up Georgie.)

Not that there would be anything surprising if Periyar's notions of Dravida Self-Respect succumb to the persistent pressures of Vedic certainties. After all, the far more powerful Jaina-Buddhist philosophies were overwhelmed too. (Nay, you ignorant WOG; the Vedic Certainties are Trikaal Sath – that which is true and hold true in the Past, Present and Future. Something beyond your low-level intelligence.)

These highly evolved philosophies nurtured egalitarianism while the Vedic tradition insisted on segregation. (Bullshit boy; even if you repeat often it will be bullshit.) One sought to elevate common people to higher social-spiritual levels through education; the other prescribed that the lower orders should not be exposed to learning. (Not lower orders boy, lower minds like yours. To use your religion’s phraseology, one should not throw pearls before swine, not even White Swine, WOG swine or the Gadarene swine. You will only get screwed up, shitty outputs like this article of yours. Maybe some of your readers will pick up undigested pearls from shit and wear it as an ornament, if you threw real pearls to non-metaphorical pigs.) As it happened, it was the dis-criminationist school that prevailed over the equality line. (Yes, we are a discriminating people after all in the real sense of the word.)

Odd? There are researchers who point to Buddhist and Jain temples that were either destroyed or built over during an era of resurgent Brahminism. (Correction – resurgent reform currents and reform cycles in Hinduism. And since we always play the my-thing-is-better-than- yours game, note that your Christians have destroyed and built up churches over many, many, many more temples of Hindus and others world over. Close contest between you and Islam in this respect. And your own St.Thomas who never set foot in India, and your particular caste of Crosstianity have pulled down the famous Kapaleeswarar Temple in Madras and built the present Santhome Church on the ruins using the very stones of that ancient temple. Boy, you are really making us angry. Should we teach you a lesson by pulling down that alien structure and building a Secular Thrumana Mandapam Complex there?) But significantly, the triumph of the Vedic tradition was confined to India and Nepal while the 'suppressed' Buddhism spread far and wide, producing a great culture with its own art, architecture and sculpture and its own literature in Pali, Sanskrit, Chinese and Tibetan. (Think boy, could this be due to the fact that Hinduism does not believe in or practice Conversion? And that most Hindus including most Jains Buddhists and Sikhs of Indian origin other than recent converts believe they are Hindus?) And who can beat the Buddhist masters of the East in martial arts? (Does it not prove that the Buddhism practiced there has not a trace of the Ahimsa, Shanti, Prema, etc which are basic tenets of Buddhism? Like are you ignorant of the fact that Genghis Khan was a Buddhist? You are an ass George, but a motivated ass.)

"Perhaps early Jaina-Buddhist influences also explain the cultural differences between northern and southern India which do not fit into the simple Aryan-Dravidian comparmentalisation. While the basic-scriptures of Hinduism are from the north, the south is home to the interpreters and the challengers — from Ramanuja and Madhwa to Basava. In such a soil, the earlier challenges from Jainism and Buddhism took root easily. (That is the Civilised Dialogue so much touted but seldom practiced by your ilk. There have been hundreds of Reformers over the eons Hinduism has been in existence, and we have been influenced and taken the best from all of them. WE never crucified our Reformers, Scientists or thinkers, and we never labeled them Heretics and stoned them to death.)

A new seminal book (Kerala History's Basic Records by Puthussery Ramachandran) quotes inscriptions in ancient caves and temples to assert that before Brahmins arrived in southern India Jains and Buddhists had established a flourishing linguistic culture in the region. The classical literary works of the Sangam period, from Tolkapiam to Thirukkural, were products of a pre-Brahmin flowering. (Idiot child, Tolkaapppiar was a Brahmin and Thriuvalluvar a half-brahmin born of a Brahmin father and a Shudra mother. So what is this pre-brahmin flowering nonsense?) From 1st Century AD, there was a significant Jain presence in the West Coast. Al-Baruni, the traveller who arrived after Shankara's Brahminic consolidation, recorded that people from Konkan to Kollarti (Kerala) were followers of the Buddha. An example of what Kannada owes to Jainism is Pampa, the venerated Adi Kavi who, born to Brahmin parents, chose to become a Jain. (Starting from the First one Rishaba Deva, most Jain Thirthankaras find mention in Srimad Bhagavatham. As we have remarked earlier there was free movement and mixing between the numerous sects of Hinduism. For a very long time there was free movement between the Castes also. Hinduism has always been a very inclusive religion.)

Dravidian politics may indeed be overwhelmed by Brahminic politics. (Never you Christian Idiot. It is Hindu Politics, and if it gets fully under way you will be among the first to sing another tune. You will be among the ranks who will claim Brahmin Descent, Hindu affiliation and go fully “native”.) But the literary-cultural glory of the south's pre-Brahminic inheritance shall never fade. It's pre-politics as well. (Which makes it precious. Travel back in time laddie, go back to the Stone Age, which in India will be a few million years ago.)

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